Ken, you and I have been over this road before in other forums and topics. If you refuse to belive there is a God, then you will never accept what He has to say in His Word. Therefore you are making a choice each time you choose to debate any point about salvation.
I could give you a very long dissertation that would hold up quite correctly according to the Bible, God’s Word. But no matter what I, or anyone else says, you refuse to accept the basic premise that there is a God therefore you chose not to accept any explination no matter how logical it may be. I can not prove that there is a God to anyone whose mind is made up that God does not exist. Nor can you prove there is no God.
Perhaps you would rather engauge in a simple topic for debate, like nuclear molecular biology.