this coincides with those who christ will not know at judgement. those who claim to have the spirit–but do not– and worship with us are not saved even though they claim to be christian. we are known by our fruits and by what comes out of our mouths concerning god and his son christ. if you claim to be christian but do not believe (disobedient) you will perish in your sins. once saved, always saved is a myth as the bible tells us the dangers of falling from grace which we could not do if once saved, always saved were true.