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St Peter


“You are changing the subject………….”


Im not changing the subject I just pointed out what to me is an ovious fact of scripture,of the act being possible,which should bring up the question of why did it happen,to which should lead you back to the Garden and what really happened,between Eve and satan.


“………but it is up to you to prove the Bible teaches that. It does not.”

Oh but it does

Look at the words used for “eat” and “touch “EAT– Strong’s #398 ‘akal (aw‑kal’); a primitive root; to eat (literally or figuratively): KJV‑‑ X at all, burn up, consume, devour (‑er, up), dine, eat (‑er, up), feed (with), food, X freely, X in…wise (‑deed, plenty), (LAY) meat, X quite. (DID) OUCH‑‑Strong’s #5060 naga (naw‑ gah’); a primitive root; properly, to touch, i.e. lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemism., TO LIE WITH A WOMAN); by implication, to reach (figuratively, to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): KJV‑‑ beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch. (DID) Isn’t it strange that naga (touch) means to lie with a woman? In verse 6 we find that Eve partook of the ‘fruit of the tree,’ and ALSO gave of the same fruit to Adam, and he partook also. Is this strange to you?

Look what Eve said to God in verse 13‑ “the serpent beguiled me…just look at what the Hebrew word means‑‑beguiled‑‑Strong’s #5377 nasha’ (naw‑shaw’); a primitive root; TO LEAD ASTRAY, i.e. (mentally) TO DELUDE, OR (morally) TO SEDUCE: KJV‑‑ beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly. (DID)Was Eve seduced? Paul (2 Corinthians 11:2‑3) says she was. (2) For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. (3) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

What do you suppose the Greek word here translated ‘beguiled’ means? Strong’s # 1818 exapatao (ex‑ap‑at‑ah’&#8209); from 1537 and 538; to seduce wholly: KJV‑‑ beguile, deceive. (DID) Notice that it has only one meaning. “to seduce wholly” Look now at verse 16. Notice that God says “I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception…” I believe it is plain here that Eve was pregnant! Look at the word ‘conception’. It is definitely present tense, not future.

Strong’s # 2032 herown (hay‑rone’); or herayown (hay‑raw‑yone’); from #2029; pregnancy: KJV– conception. (DID)Strong’s #2029 harah (haw‑raw’); a primitive root; to be (or become) pregnant, conceive (literally or figuratively): KJV‑‑been, be with child, conceive, progenitor. (DID)In addition, in verse 15, God tells Satan that He will put enmity (hate) between her seed and his (Satan’s) seed.

Every Christian accepts her seed as Christ, but they gloss over the phrase dealing with Satan’s seed. Christ Himself told of them in many places. See especially the parable of the tare sin Matthew 3:24‑42. Thus Eve was carrying twins, but not of the same father. The medical term is “paternal twins”, and it is not uncommon today among prostitutes.

Notice that Genesis chapter 5 is the genealogy of Adam. Cain is not listed in that genealogy. Do you know why? Cain was NOT Adam’s son! Cain has his own genealogy in Genesis chapter 4:17‑24.2) See John 8:44, the words of Jesus “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (KJV)3) See Matthew 13:38, the words of Jesus “The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;” (KJV)

Please note the Greek word used for “seed” as used in this parable. Strong’s # 4690 sperma (sper’‑mah); from 4687; something sown, i.e. seed(including the male “sperm”); by implication, offspring; specifically, a remnant (figuratively, as if kept over for planting): KJV– issue, seed. Interesting, what? See First John 3:12 “Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.” (KJV) The English word “of” here is the Greek word ek, which means “out of the immediate origin”

To me the evidence is very clear as to what happened in the Garden.

I did’nt want to debate this so therefore I won’t,I just wanted to discuss it,so I end with these thoughts

1 If you believe that all peoples came from Adam & Eve you won’t see it, and you won’t understand why satan would do this.

2 Also know that the earth was not created void and without form

3 Do a word study on the word Adam,this should shed some light.

All of this goes together in helping to see and understand the plan of God.

If you don’t understand what happened in the beginning you won’t understand the end.

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