Even the physical forces as you call them need a creator
Why is that? This is essentially an argument from ignorance. If the physical forces are themselves the creator then we could still have existence. Nobody knows either way, and so your argument for a creator is an argument from ignorance.
My point is that I’m trying to paint an accurate potrait of the intellectual justification for religion, which seems to be in sorry shape. If you acknowledge that my points stand then how can you justify certainty in your belief? If you deny my original points then refute them. Which are you going to do?