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Jim Campbell

2 Cor. 4:[3] [quote][#00BF80] But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: [4] In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. [/#00BF80][/quote]

So yes, we somewhat agree on the parts you commented on, but the foundation of the agreement is important to me.

God allows Satan to take what someone already knows of the gospel if that person refuses to repent. He did and does that regularly with Israel even to present date, even though Jesus defeated Satan long ago.

Now back to this reprinted for convenience:
Matthew 13: [10] [quote] And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? [11] He answered and said unto them, [#FF0000]Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. [12] For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. [13] Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [/#FF0000][/quote]

Now had the Devil been the one preventing understanding of Jesus’ teachings, then the Devil had power to give understanding by leaving the teachings alone. That would put Satan in control of Jesus’ teachings, causing Him to cloak His message in hard to interpret parables. The Devil had no power over Jesus because Jesus stood on the scriptures, citing “It is written….” Whatever little glimmer of truth that did get through to most people was snatched away by Satan as soon as the people received it, with Jesus still in their midst.

I will amplify that last verse to show my position. [#FF0000]Therefore speak I to them in similitudes because they seeing [u][#000000]Me, the Word of God[/#000000][/u] see not; and hearing [u][#000000]Me, the Word of God[/#000000][/u] they hear not, neither do they understand [#000000]Me, the Word of God[/#000000]. [/#FF0000]

The fact remains that Jesus chose not to use straightforward teaching, not being forced to do so by Satan, leaving the probability of listeners catching His spiritual truths very low to not at all. There remains a conscious act on the part of God to deny words that would guarantee understanding to people refusing to repent or approach holy things properly. Were Jesus’ parables worthless messages? No. They represented gospel truths. They had face value in the earthly lessons, and hid the gospel. Those seeking truth from the heart upon invitation from the Father find the gospel and go on to repent and obey unto eternal salvation. John 6:44 [quote] [#FF0000]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. [45] It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and [b]hath [/b]learned of the Father, cometh unto me. [/#FF0000][/quote]

Improper approach on one’s own terms and timing isn’t respected by God. However He does it, whatever that man comes to try to take is both prevented by God and taken away by Satan. He might approach having something already, hoping to add to it, but ends up losing all.

Be blessed again all ye seekers,

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