Very interesting debate, fellows.
<< So when do you tell someone about God’s wrath? Do you just overlook this and only emphisize God’s love?
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.”
When do you decided that God means what He says? Do you equally tell people about His wrath? >>
So here is a christian who believes not only in his deity’s love but in his wrath..and both fears and respects that wrath.
I say kudos to you, Sean. Although your type of belief represents what I dislike about christianity, you at least have the brass to say that you believe what is in the bible and in the words of Jesus the Christ, and your deity.
I much prefer the type of christian that Ryan is, but it is refreshing to this atheist that here is someone who accepts both the OT and the NT and doesn’t try to water down the ability of the christian deity to be the terror that atheists find it to be.
<<There is hardly any balance of teaching in the church today regarding God’s love and wrath. People need to hear both and understand both. Believer and unbeliever.>>
Indeed, if there were more about wrath and the punishment for sins committed as is dictated in the bible, I suspect that christianity would be fading away. If the church had continued to expell the immoral by shunning or stoning, reveal the punishment for mortal sins like suicide…. humanists would have overtaken christians long ago, and the world would have been better for it.
But in order for the church to maintain power and control…in order for it to survive, it had to adapt to modern times and form some political correctness.
<<Truth by definition is intolerant. >>
What then, is the truth of christianity, the bible, Jesus and your deity? Intolerance of anyone’s beliefs except ones own?
Intolerance of even other christians’ beliefs?
I seem to see that more and more each day.
As an atheist I may tolerate peoples beliefs even if I do not agree with them. I accept the need to believe, and allow each to his own.
But apparently, christians place themselves in eternal peril if they get it wrong.