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God and Santan .......Is it possible ?

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God and Santan .......Is it possible ?
I have a question and would like to hear what you think .

The question is this :



God who created all things must also have created Santan but do you think He created Santan to be able to show us good from evil ?



I do not want to debate this I am just looking for what you think. How would we know the difference without both ?



Sheila056
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Start Reading at Isa. 14:12 and on. Read Rev. 12, also in Matt. Jesus says he saw Lucifer fall like lightning to the earth. God created Lucifer, he was glorious in heaven until sin was found in him. He was envious of God and wanted to be higher than God which started the sin problem and eventually he pulled 1/3 of the angels down with him which became demons and evil spirits of different ranks. See Eph. 6:10-12 Also it says that the devil is the god of this world. Also see I Jn. 2:15-17 about the dif. evils of satan. But all will pass away except the word of God which will last forever.



Marcia
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He created the waster to destroy. That doesn't mean that the waster was created to destroy us but that he was created to be destroyed
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Theological questions....KISS (Keep it Simple Saints)theology states it like this: "God made Lucifer as an angel with a will who choose to seek evil. God makes us with a will to choose...good or evil. Choose good (God) and go to heaven. All we need to know about Satan is that he is real but defeated and has no power over the Saints of God." Why focus on the loser?

Seek out God and WIGD (What Is God Doing?)
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That is a good question and worthy of an honest Christian who does not like to shove stuff under the ecumenical rug and pretend...

Jesus said it is wise to recognize your adversary and count the cost of the upcoming war.

Sadly, new Christains are not always warned of the real dangers of being a Christian.

No one dare tells us that we may 'suffer'. Dare I even mention 'suffer' in our age of pain-free, taste-free, perfection seekers.

The church has let us down in this regard. We are the Church. We must call a spade a spade and get on with it.

Satan is in God's arena fortunately. God deals with these devilish ways and really only allows him very limited powers.

One of those allowed powers is to attempt to delude us, play on our forgiven weaknesses and so work things to God's advantage.

The Lord allows muscle pain in order for the athlete to improve tone and perform better.

Satan is one such pain. We grow into the Lord's love, will and power by such painful incidents in our lives.

So it is with Christians and their lives.

Know your enemy from the Bible's point of view and avoid giving ANY glory to any being except the Lord Jesus.



Do NOT read all you can about Lucifer. Rather read all you can about the guy that beat him. JESUS.



Our God is so very, very gentle and so soft and kind.

He gently eased us out from under the dominion of Satan and his angels and is, like a father, trying to 'grow us up' by allowing small evil exposures, purely for our health and safety. Sooner or later the parent lets go of the bike and the child wobbles along under their own steam.



Sure, God designed the whole scenario. There is not anything made, designed or in existance that God did not design, create or permit.



The last question you pose is impossible for me to answer since we can not know on earth what it was like before the fall. All I can say is that it MUST be like when I have committed a grave sin and suddenly feel that awful possible separation from God. That is a dire warning. I would NOT want to be over that line for sure.



The last part of your last question is a wonderful thought. If we had NOT fallen, we would not have one iota of and idea what it would be like to NOT know good and evil. Which we certainly do know all about now!



in peace, fellow pilgrim