http://www.praize.com/forums/ en-us no-reply@praize.com Sat, 25 May 2013 22:28:45 GMT Gossamer Forum by Gossamer Threads, Inc. http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification http://www.praize.com/forum/icons/gforum-logo.png http://www.praize.com/forums/ 50 50 http://www.praize.com/forums/Prayer_C24/Prayer_Requests_F100/Please_pray_P119383/?page=unread#119383 I just received this: Hi Allen, I just read that you are a Man of GOD, so will you please Pray for my brother Harold? He is the only brother i have and is 55. I'm 58 so he is little brother. A couple of months ago he thought he was having a stroke so his girlfriend took him to the E.R.. He did have a mini stroke, but when they ran more test they found a brain tumor. They took it out, and it is cancer. The family are devastated. He is so freaked out that he can’t speak much about it unless he cries, and my brother has Never been an emotional person. He is so scared and i pray all the time for him, and my church prays as well. Lift my brother UP . Please pray for him. Thank you, ANGELA Thank you for praying with me 2249476e2f00915ce423a693b06455b3 May 24, 2013, 9:21 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Prayer_C24/Prayer_Requests_F100/Note_from_a_friend_P119382/?page=unread#119382 Just got this note from a friend: Went to see the Dr today, I have to go June 4th for a MRI on my head. He thinks I may have had a mini stroke Your prayers will be greatly appreciated. fa2d3c3438a3bce14b8c63740cd290d7 May 24, 2013, 9:37 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Bible__C4/Bible_Translations_F59/Re%3A_%5Brdrcofe%5D_KJV_onlyism%3A_The_Great_Divider_P119381/?page=unread#119381 I believe a translation that conveys the meaning of Scripture is superior to a word-for-word translation. After using the KJV for many years I turned to more modern translations and finally settled on the Contemporary English Version from the American Bible Society. The MESSAGE is what's important not every jot and tittle. a016233ba51e4c88cbaeea8d9bceed6f May 24, 2013, 12:35 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/Re%3A_%5Bevangelist-1%5D_30_Scriptural_warnings_to_Christians_about_losing_eternal_life!_P119380/?page=unread#119380 I don't see anything to debate. (Of course, I am not a debater to begin with.) lol Blessings ~ Sarah 31e54d71435222cd3bc2aa55a7f48bea May 23, 2013, 8:31 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Bible__C4/Bible_Translations_F59/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1948%5D_KJV_onlyism%3A_The_Great_Divider_P119379/?page=unread#119379 Probiblos: RSV is my preferred version. All the literary power and accuracy of the KJV without the confusing, arcane and outmoded vocabulary. (A good translation made better). My least preferred versions are The New World Translation and The Living Bible. One being much too word for word literal and pedantic, the other for being too paraphrased. Both for being regurgitated and theologically biased. Regards Chris. 43e27b56cbece1dd4288820a787cad43 May 23, 2013, 2:33 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/Re%3A_%5Bpraizeop2%5D_30_Scriptural_warnings_to_Christians_about_losing_eternal_life!_P119378/?page=unread#119378 My point is ... There are at least 30 Scriptural warnings to Christians about losing eternal life! I was expecting someone to agree, or to debate this (which is what I expected). But, no cigar! 32bba78d37cecb289229aca9791f4920 May 23, 2013, 1:17 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Bible__C4/Bible_Translations_F59/Re%3A_%5BRay_McIntyre%5D_KJV_onlyism%3A_The_Great_Divider_P119377/?page=unread#119377 Version Information The Revised Standard Version of the Bible (RSV) is an authorized revision of the American Standard Version, published in 1901, which was a revision of the King James Version, published in 1611. The King James Version has with good reason been termed "the noblest monument of English prose." Its revisers in 1881 expressed admiration for "its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression … the music of it cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm." It entered, as no other book has, into the making of the personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking peoples. The Revised Standard Version of the Bible, containing the Old and New Testaments, was published on September 30, 1952, and has met with wide acceptance. The Revised Standard Version Bible seeks to preserve all that is best in the English Bible as it has been known and used through the years. It is intended for use in public and private worship, not merely for reading and instruction. We have resisted the temptation to use phrases that are merely current usage, and have sought to put the message of the Bible in simple, enduring words that are worthy to stand in the great Tyndale-King James tradition. We are glad to say, with the King James translators: "Truly (good Christian Reader) we never thought from the beginning, that we should need to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one … but to make a good one better." …Abridged from Preface to the Revised Standard Version (1971, on the occasion of the second edition of the New Testament). The complete preface is available here . 762d4ed66efdefa81e8c5545669bac0a May 23, 2013, 11:25 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/Re%3A_%5Bevangelist-1%5D_30_Scriptural_warnings_to_Christians_about_losing_eternal_life!_P119376/?page=unread#119376 And your point is??? ;) After all, you posted in a Debates forum. Blessings ~ Sarah 37e72c50ba88749f3e01bead126253f6 May 23, 2013, 10:32 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/30_Scriptural_warnings_to_Christians_about_losing_eternal_life!_P119375/?page=unread#119375 Matt 6:15 • Forgive men’s sins against you, or God will not forgive your sins against Him. Matt 10:39 • He who loses his old sinful life for Jesus sake will find eternal life. Matt 13:3-8,18-23 • 2 examples of coming to life, and then returning to the lost state. Matt 16:24-26 • Deny (lose) your old sinful life and follow Jesus to find eternal life. Matt 18:21-35 • Not forgiving others causes God to revoke His forgiving us. Mark 11:25-26 • If you do not forgive everyone, Father God will not forgive your sins. John 12:25 • He who hates his life in this world will keep his life for eternity. Rom 8:13 • Follow the Spirit and put to death the works of the flesh to gain eternal life. Rom 11:20-22 • By faith, continue in God’s goodness & fear, otherwise you will be cut off. 1 Cor 6:9-10 • People committing these sins will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 15:2 • You are saved, if you hold fast to the word, unless you believed in vain. 2 Cor 7:10 • Godly sorrow leads Christians to repent, leading to salvation. 2 Cor 13:5 • Examine yourself to see if you are in the faith, unless you are disqualified. Gal 5:1-4 • It is possible for a Christian to be estranged from Christ and fall from grace. Gal 5:19-21 • Believers who practice such sins will not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 6:7-8 • Sowing to the flesh reaps corruption; sowing to the Spirit reaps eternal life. Eph 5:3-6 • Disobedient believers committing such sins will incur the wrath of God. Col 3:5-6 • Disobedient believers committing such sins will incur the wrath of God. 1 Tim 5:11-12 • Some believers are condemed because they have cast off their first faith. Heb 2:1-4 • How shall we escape, if we drift away and neglect so great a salvation? Heb 3:14 • Partakers of Christ hold the beginning of their confidence steadfast to the end. Heb 6:4-8 • Those partakers of the Holy Spirit who fall away will be rejected and burned. Heb 10:26-27 • Believers who sin willfully can expect God’s fiery judgment. Heb 10:36-39 • Endure in the faith, and do not be like those who draw back to perdition. Heb 12:14 • Pursue holiness, without which no one will see the Lord. 1 Pet 1:8-9 • Believing, you will receive the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls. 2 Pet 1:10-11 • Be diligent to make your call and election sure, gaining the kingdom. 2 Pet 2:20-22 • A believer who returns to his sins is worse off than he was before. Rev 2-3 • All 7 churches are warned to repent and be overcomers to be: given the crown of life, clothed in white garments, a pillar in the temple of God, not hurt by the second death, etc. Rev 21:7-8 • People committing these sins will go into the lake of fire (the second death). Rev 21:27 • People committing these sins will not enter the New Jerusalem. Rev 22:14-15 • People committing these sins will not enter the New Jerusalem. Romans (the 6th NT book), chapter 6, verse 6 “… our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.” 21c22b521e63701e7607fad59a00c0d0 May 22, 2013, 5:53 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/Re%3A_%5Bchaplainbob%5D_Are_all_born-again_Christians_part_of_God%92s_elect%3F_P119374/?page=unread#119374 I have kind of a different thought on this scripture. I wonder if the "drawing" that the Lord does isn't during a particular period of time in a person's live when he/she is ready and open to Jesus knocking at the door. It seems that it would be a huge waste of time and effort for the Lord to be "drawing" when a person is happy in his sin. Usually people come when they reach the bottom of themselves. So, to me, it isn't so much WHOM He draws, but when. Blessings ~ Sarah 7305aeb72c81bf56df4bd70183fb67de May 22, 2013, 5:34 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/People_C21/Kids_C54/Friends_C69/Pen-Pals_F198/Re%3A_%5Bkaribush%5D_I_would_like_a_christian_penpal_P119373/?page=unread#119373 I would love tto be your pen pal email at edited by PraizeOP2 thanks. Karibush, I have edited your post for your protection. If someone wants to be your penpal, they can contact you through Praize. cebc492df91b47cce77b713045a25ef6 May 22, 2013, 5:10 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/Re%3A_%5Bsojourner%5D_Are_all_born-again_Christians_part_of_God%92s_elect%3F_P119372/?page=unread#119372 God (the Holy Spirit) draws everyone to Him. Some choose to accept the "invitation" some do not. 2c91edb1e38ee41fd6369847cae29d6f May 22, 2013, 4:47 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Apologetics_C2/Christian_Debates_F17/Re%3A_%5Bchaplainbob%5D_Are_all_born-again_Christians_part_of_God%92s_elect%3F_P119371/?page=unread#119371 chaplainbob wrote: God saves those who choose to turn to Him." And....WHO 'chooses' to turn to Him? Quote: Quote:" Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. Joh_6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." Seems to me...that no one can even 'choose' to 'turn to Him'.....UNLESS the Father 'draw' (Greek..meaning literally to drag) him. Quote: Quote:"He does not choose to save certain people and let others go to Hell." Seems to me you're playing a semantic word game here. IF one CAN'T come to Him unless the Father draw/drag him, then obviously the Father makes a conscious choice as to just WHO He 'draws' to Jesus, doesn't He? Quote: Quote:"If that were the case then Jesus was in error in giving the great commission." Not really.....since HE knows who will come to Him (ALL those who the Father has given to Him), but WE DO NOT, hence the 'commission'....to preach the gospel. Blessings, 2ab429e71db107ffb4db4bf99238a14f May 20, 2013, 8:36 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Prayer_C24/Prayer_Requests_F100/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1948%5D_Friend's_son_in_a_coma_P119370/?page=unread#119370 God is a god of miracles and answered prayer! We give Him ALL the praise and ALL the glory! In Jesus' Name, amen. Blessings ~ Sarah afdb75dd69ac7e1c51871508dbe4c5e0 May 20, 2013, 12:51 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Prayer_C24/Prayer_Requests_F100/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1948%5D_Friend's_son_in_a_coma_P119369/?page=unread#119369 God is SOOOOOOOOOOOO good! ff83c157a62af09daff0db94bc55c86c May 19, 2013, 3:30 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/Prayer_C24/Prayer_Requests_F100/Re%3A_%5Bpraizeop2%5D_Friend's_son_in_a_coma_P119368/?page=unread#119368 Jake is now at home and is doing well. His mother has someone checking in with him several times each week. Thank everyone for your prayers and, thank God for His goodness. b9039a89dfdf2cabda7f133cd43d74cb May 19, 2013, 2:55 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Bible__C4/Bible_Translations_F59/Re%3A_%5BStratfan%5D_KJV_onlyism%3A_The_Great_Divider_P119367/?page=unread#119367 Concerning the New Living Translation, read the following: The goal of any Bible translation is to convey the meaning of the ancient Hebrew and Greek texts as accurately as possible to the modern reader. The New Living Translation is based on the most recent scholarship in the theory of translation. The challenge for the translators was to create a text that would make the same impact in the life of modern readers that the original text had for the original readers. In the New Living Translation, this is accomplished by translating entire thoughts (rather than just words) into natural, everyday English. The end result is a translation that is easy to read and understand and that accurately communicates the meaning of the original text. In reality, The New Living Translation is an extensive revision of Ken Taylor's Living Bible (published by Tyndale House in 1971). It was designed to improve the accuracy of Taylor's paraphrase. c2c98536e07b37d206237423a15056fb May 18, 2013, 11:21 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Bible__C4/Bible_Translations_F59/Re%3A_%5BProbiblos1948%5D_Interpretating_the_Bible_P119366/?page=unread#119366 Question: What are the goals of hermeneutics? There are three basic goals: 1. To understand the message God has given us. 2. To avoid mistakes and errors about what the Bible teaches. 3. To properly apply the Word of God to our lives. Questin: What factors should we be aware of that might influence our interpretation? I have a list of 18 things to be aware of: 1. Your denomination's history or tradition. 2. Things you hold as values outside of the Bible. 3. Your personal theology. 4. Your race. 5. Your gender, male or female? 6. Your place or position in society. 7. Your education 8. The priorities of the community you live in. 9. Your political views 10. Your political associations. 11. Your exposure to the Bible. 12. The Bible translation you use. 13. Your use of other tools in studying the Bible. 14. Past preaching you have heard. 15. Your attitude towards Bible scholarship. 16. Family influences. 17. Things you have been through in life. 18. Your spirituality and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Feel free to add to those things and/or to question them as you wish. e3b6d6722d72bbd3fa88af48d8572394 May 18, 2013, 10:55 AM http://www.praize.com/forums/Bible__C4/Bible_Translations_F59/Re%3A_%5Bpraizeop2%5D_Interpretating_the_Bible_P119365/?page=unread#119365 Thank you Sarah. Prat with me that the Lord will show me where to use it best for His glory. de8baedc9bcbec69b8993d3a0c7e92cf May 17, 2013, 5:40 PM http://www.praize.com/forums/General_C76/General_Topics_F74/Re%3A_%5BNannrs%5D_How_do_we_know_if_something_is_God's_Will_P119364/?page=unread#119364 John 4:34 says, Jesus said unto them, My me is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. John 5:30, says ,I can of mine own self do nothing : as I hear, I judge in my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me . John 6:38 says ,For. I came down from heaven ,, not to do mine own will , but the will of him that sent me . God has purpose and a plan for each one of us . . God bless . Pastor Fred Wilson 30077672732f6fe263003dd496f00121 May 17, 2013, 6:50 AM