The all-in-one Christian Web Site Community - Praize.com
Skip to Content

Merry Christmas, atheists!

Quote Reply
Merry Christmas, atheists!
Merry Christmas, atheists!

Or do you celebrate Christmas? And if so, why?



If you celebrate Christmas, do you do so because everyone else does? Why not celebrate the birth of Benjamin Franklin or Nero or whoever?



If you do not, why not? Are your children unhappy because you don't? Do you make up some other day/excuse to give them gifts?



I am truly curious. I had never given much thought to this before. But do you celebrate Christmas?
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Merry Christmas, Sarah!



I suspect most atheists celebrate Christmas because they celebrated the holiday when they were Christians...younger or children of a Christian family...or of a family that celebrated Christmas even if they weren't really religious in the Christian faith.



They celebrate the season for various reasons. Tradition, joy, gift giving, family gatherings, a part of solstice or part of another religious holy day. They may celebrate because everyone else they are socially connected with does or because family does.



It can be a magical time no matter what ones belief. It is a traditional time to come together, to forgive, to heal, to contemplate the year's end and the new year's beginning...to sort through your recent past, your failures, your successes, your struggles, your promises.



Our celebrations have always been family gatherings and the gift giving smaller than most families around our area. Good food, good times, good memories to be made...warm times, peaceful times, but at the same time often full of merry chaos.



I love the music, the lights, the peace, the snow if we get it. I love the gift seeking and even the shopping and preparations.



And...atheists can celebrate just as anyone else can...this season is a good time to do so.



I am including a link to a short video, which speaks of how I feel about a reason to celebrate. It is called "What can atheists possibly celebrate?" I am humbled by the reasons that I have to celebrate.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptwEV0xhTzI&feature=related



I hope your Christmas is full of joy and memory making times.



hugs



Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
There are plenty of ways to celebrate Christmas without including the "baby Jesus" in it; Santa Clause, Frosty the Snowman, the Grinch, Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, etc. These are not religious characters; anybody can have fun with them.



The tradition of visiting friends and family, Christmas trees, Christmas lights, exchanging gifts, egg nog, christmas cheer...anybody can appreciate these traditions; believers, and non-believers alike



Ken

Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
And...many of these Christmas traditions are not unique to the Christian religion. In this country and others which celebrate Christmas, we celebrate the season as Christmas because the Christian religion is part of our national heritage. But gift giving, lights, decorated trees, feasting, etc. are found in other religions and in other national heritages celebrated around this time of year.





http://www.religioustolerance.org/winter_solstice.htm





Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
 

I have recently read that atheists want to establish Darwin Day as a secular celebration to replace Christmas!



Zealous Christians will not celebrate Christmas, for all the known reasons: commercialism, links with paganism, disputes about the actual date, denial of the Deity of Jesus, whatever.



For us mere mortals, any excuse for a celebration is good enough for me, as long as it doe not involve the occult. God bless you all, have a very merry Christmas!
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
There are plenty of ways to celebrate Christmas without including the "baby Jesus" in it; Santa Clause, Frosty the Snowman, the Grinch, Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, etc.



For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to what they know are myths like Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer, Frosty the Snowman, The Grinch, Santa Clause, etc.



Nevertheless, Merry Christmas to all who enjoy life and help others to do the same. God is not a killjoy and delights in a cheerful giver, even an atheist cheerful giver. So be generous in spirit in this season of generosity, knowing 'it is more blessed to give than to receive'.



Regards Chris.
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Barry, I am awed by the genius of Charles Darwin as any other person who recognizes his contribution to how science helps us understand the material world, that is, all that exists....but his is not the "stuff" of which solstice-type celebration is made.



I'll keep my pagan/mono-deistic accumulation of winter solstice celebratory traditions, thanks ever so much.



Happy New Year! I am not predicting a better year than last, but let us bring it in with positive vibes anyway.
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
 barryac (barryac):



Having visited Downe House in Kent last summer and seen the rooms and garden where Darwin spent the happiest years of his life, I think I can guess that Darwin would not approve of replacing Christmas with a secular celebration , (in His name). He celebrated Christmas with his believing wife and quite large family and thoroughly enjoyed it. As someone who so conspicuously enjoyed family life, I doubt he would want Christmas replaced.



By all means let's celebrate Darwin Day at some other time of year though. What date would you think most appropriate?



Regards Chris.
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
rdrcofe.



February 30th might be a good one!



Seriously though, there are so many great minds over the centuries who have contributed to human progress that it might be better to abandon the whole idea of celebration as a world-wide commemoration of any single person, or event.



Individual nations will have their special days. Here in Barbados, Errol Barrow Day is a national holiday along with eleven other national holidays, that's twelve all together, which includes Christmas Day!



Easter is specifically Christian, but Christmas has become world-wide and is enjoyed many non-Christians. Perhaps this one is sufficient then and dare I say rightly so. Armistice Day has a large following, but would never replace Christmas as its effect has been zero on human progress.



I think only Jesus commands and deserves the recognition we give Him, and Christmas draws in many non-Christians, as I have already said, hopefully because of its emphasis on the family. To deny Christmas is to deny human progress, and the disintegration of family values is of great concern, I think. God Bless!
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Darwin Day is celebrated on April 12th, his birthday.
Quote Reply
Re: Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
A link to some interesting information about what Christians should be celebrating:



http://www.ucg.org/booklets/HH/
Quote Reply
Re: [PRAIZEOP2] Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Hi! I know it is WAY past Christmas, but this post made me think. I am an Athiest, but I still celebrate Christmas with my family, regardless of what religion they belong to. I do this because to me, Christmas is all about getting a chance to spend time with friends and family. Merry Belated Christmas to everyone! Smile
Quote Reply
Re: [SomeRandomGirl11] Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Hi, Randomgirl, welcome to Praize!

I love it when someone brings up one of these old threads. It is such fun to read them!
Welcome to Praize, and Christmas will be here before we know it!

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me, but I hope you will enjoy all that Praize has to offer and be an active participant.
Blessings ~ Sarah
Quote Reply
Re: [SomeRandomGirl11] Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Hi SomeRandomGirl11:

Welcome to Praize. I really hope you enjoy the old posts in here and I like the idea of 'resurrection', so 'resurrect' as many of them as you like.

Meanwhile I just hope that those of us that are still left here to respond, are still up to the task.

Looking forward to seeing you posting in the debates forum.

Regards Chris.
In Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting the message of reconciliation to us. 2 Cor. 5:19. Love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Pet.4:8b.
Quote Reply
Re: [SomeRandomGirl11] Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Hi SomeRandomGirl11,

Welcome. I hope you get the type of action that you are seeking here.

Feliz Navidad!

See you again soon.


With love and peace to you.
Abdool
Quote Reply
Re: [rdrcofe] Merry Christmas, atheists! In reply to
Welcome RandomGirl atheist! Smile There used to be more atheists and agnostics here, but in truth, there used to be more Christians of all sorts who posted in the debate forums. Heavy sigh....
Now...just Evangelist creates topics for debate and I just don't have the knowledge to involve myself with the topics. He does keep the Christian Debate forum hopping, however.

Anyway...glad you are here. Start something up! As the weather gets colder and farming stuff winds down and the nights come quicker...I should get online more often.

Looking forward to another family centered and Merry Christmas this year.

Hugs all around.

-Jeanne
"The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient."