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Re: [MaryPankratz] Once saved...
There's an intriguing chapter covering this, with Paul dealing with a problem brewing among the churches, in this case specifically at Corinth. The problem was and remains a pesky doubting of the resurrection of Christ, which is pivotal concerning the power of the gospel to save from our sins.

Here's the first part, and I hope everyone studies the whole chapter.
1 Cor. 15:[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; .....

There is no Bible promise of "Get your ticket to Heaven then don't worry about a thing." There are requirements for every receiver of the gospel of Christ, and none of them should instill fear or pose a heavy burden.

We learn from this chapter the gospel is preached according to the license of God towards all who will hear it, by grace), that people can hear and believe it from deep within us (our "heart"), obey it, and not forget it. How complicated is the gospel?

It is simply, as listed in this chapter:

1. Jesus died for our sins
2. Jesus was buried (carrying the curse of sin with Him)
3. Jesus rose from the grave, defeating death as well as the curse of sin, as witnessed by many, some of whom remained alive to testify at the time Paul wrote that.

I will note that missionaries for Christ have in fact carried the gospel to every part of Earth, and even Bibles have been printed in many remote tribal languages. But when a people as a whole reject the message of God, choosing a life of communism, or tolerating despotic atheist dictators, they are considered like Esau, despising their "birthright". So it is that many people today have not heard the gospel, or the name of Jesus, being cursed by their parents. The principle is from God, who gave for an example the population of Ai in Joshua 8. Jesus also charged His disciples not to persist in delivering the gospel when a population rejected them and their message, telling them to shame the people by shaking the dust off their shoes and departing, found in Mt 10:14.

Once the gospel is delivered there is no guarantee the descendants of those rejecting it will hear it preached again, yet all are accountable to God for having heard it. The nation of India (Hindustan) had wisdom to at least permit adding an image of Jesus to the array of gods and goddesses on display in the homes, adding the gospel in. Their ancestors didn't curse them, so today the gospel is preached there and millions hear, believe, and are born again Christians.

But still, it all goes back to 1 Cor 15 and the warning not to forget the gospel of Jesus.

To put it in perspective....I once heard a recent college graduate say she was only interested in finding a good job where "they pay me". Her concept of a coveted work career came after years of witnessing people holding down a position at a corporation, but never working, just receiving paychecks for showing up and staying around.

That attitude toward salvation by faith through this 2000 years of grace administration will not cut it with God, just as many employers are ditching such empty "work" positions. So yes, there is a certain "fear" that is healthy for us, concerning our eternal security, which ought only be applied to how we respond to God.
Be fishers of men.....DG

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