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Tue, Jan 09 2018 - 01:24 PM

A QUESTION IS AMERICA AS A NATION CHRISTIAN? HONESTLY?

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE  IN MAJORITY {THE GOD OF THE BIBLE}  PEOPLE  WOULD DENY ANY RELATION TO THE HISTORICAL  GOD OF THE BIBLE.   YET OUR NATIONS  HISTORY CANNOT CONFIRM THAT FOR  THE MAJORITY OF OUR HISTORY AS A NATION. ALMOST EVERY PERSON THAT MIGHT READ THISCAN GO BACKTO SOME POINT IN THEIR GENEOLOGY AND FIND CHRISTIAN FAMILY FIELDS THAT STAND STRONG.

THE SIN AND LAWLESSNESS HAS SOME POINT OF ORICIN:COULD THAT BEGIN WITH IMPROPER ROLE MODELING IN THE HOME?  IT IS TIME TO ASK SOME HONEST  QUESTIONS OF OURSELVES AND WHAT KIND OF REFLECTION IS BEING RECEIVED IN OUR HOMES..

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jeanne53 - 1 week ago

Here is an interesting discussion: https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/9552/what-are-the-crime-rates-by-religion-in-usa

And this article is interesting and makes the claim that religion does not make nations or states of less crime. There is an ad on this page for an atheist book...just FYI.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201103/misinformation-and-facts-about-secularism-and-religion

Would you like to continue this in a forum?

jeanne53 - 1 week ago

I suspect that there are government statistics that would answer your question, Chris. We know that the high crime states generally have a large city which creates the majority of their statistics. There is no real way to determine the religiosity of individuals or if that is even a criteria of crime. Christianity still holds a large percentage of our deity beliefs...86 percent perhaps. Black families tend to be much more religious and blacks disproportionately make up much of our incarcerated, with black on black crime and black on brown crime being the majority of the problem.

How that sets across various states and areas probably depends upon demographics.

My personal opinion is that anything that helps keep people of all ages and skin color on a straight path of ethical behavior is okay. Well..short of police states. Morality cannot be legislated, but it can be encouraged. Humanity is far and away from getting this right and maybe never will. The best we can do is look to our own families and our own behavior and be both a role model and a citizen who expects and encourages ethical behavior in society.

It starts at home.

rdrcofe - 1 week ago

Has a survey of crime statistics ever been carried out state by state and compared with the demographic of the level of population holding strong ethical views and a strong sense of personal responsibility? What I mean is How do the Bible Belt states compare on the crime statistics chart, with states that are avowedly 'less religious'? Not that religious belief is any true measure of ethical behavior, but with true Christianity it surely should be.

jeanne53 - 1 week ago

Hi Jim. Glad to see you writing.

There is a lot we can go back to in our ancestry and find.

It is true that the majority of new comers to the Americas were Christian, but all of the indigenous people were not. It is true that today the majority of citizens of America are Christians or that is what they tell the pollsters. How good and strong those families have ever been is anybody's guess.

Compromised ethics are as old as when human's minds first realized they existed as individuals and could imagine acting according to their own specific conditions and it has only become more complicated as we advanced.

And you are correct again, improper role modeling should get the absolute biggest blame.

We know that there have been, are and will be proper role modeling in families of all deity beliefs including Christianity and in atheist families. And we know that there have been, are and will be improper role modeling in families of all deity beliefs including Christianity and in atheist families.

Truly a dilemma. You are right; all adults in role model positions should strive to present proper ethics. Young people and children should be held to standards of behavior that would best continue a harmony among peoples of all nations.

I am most sure that in my ancestry were good strong pagans and atheists, as well. No doubt there were good strong Christians, too, and who knows what other deity beliefs may actually be among my ancestors. But...no doubt there are also scoundrels of highly questionable ethics. I can go not too far back to my mother's family and find despicable ancestors and slightly challenged ancestors and at least one was hanged for a horse thief.

I wish there was an easy and sure answer to how to get parents to do a good job in role modeling ethical behavior to their offspring. I am afraid that either you are ethical or you are not and that you are either a parent who tries or you are not. Even trying and repeatedly failing is far better than not caring and not trying. Sometimes I wonder if parents even love their children or each other, what I see is so bad.